I really, really wanted to love these pants. The color is fabulous, the material is fantastic, and in theory, the cut should be super flattering. Pleated pants are usually great for me. However, the combination of mid rise and pleats was disastrous, and the pants bunched in the crotch in a super strange and unflattering way. I've literally never put on a pair of pants with this issue. I bought both the 10 and 10 tall and the issue existed with both. I don't think it was a fit issue because they fit great everywhere else. Sadly, I'm returning, because I just can't walk around with a pair of pants that accentuates my crotch so dramatically. I think these would be fine if they were high waisted.